I love to tell the story of how we got started and when I came out of law school, I had a job and I was really lucky that I got a job because the majority of my friends didn’t get a job. And you were a year behind me in law school and I didn’t really know anybody, but I got a job and I worked for somebody for a year and then we started our own firm when you when you got licensed and got sworn in and we hung our shingle in a little tiny office.

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